2008/09/15 22:29:59
T_Mark
Hi, As iv'e been researching engines for my mk2 project im just wondering if anyone can help with info.
The 2.0l Duratec comes in both the newer ford focus and mazda 3 and 6?? Im still not too sure! Anyway ive found a wrecked mazda 6 mps 2007 model with the 2.3 DISI Turbo engine and manual 6 speed box behind it! (or beside it)
Does anyone know if this engine is even close in design to the duratec ppl are fitting to Escorts??
Just been pondering cheap power and this seems to possibly be it
Iv'e read these things are around 190kw at the wheels standard and 4wd??

2008/09/16 10:21:38
T_Mark
No info guys??
Found another pic of the engine in a mazda 6 mps, from this angle it looks very simmilar to a duratec . . . Although being a 2.3 it still may be too tall for the escort engine bay but it has been done!

2008/09/16 13:05:53
bhempstead
The MPS Turbo uses the same block as the standard 2.3 Duratec. So, get yourself a wccrossmember with lowered rack, engine mounts & sump from Europseed and bolt in 190Kw of power at the fly. You would need an Auto Tunnel for the 6speed box and bellhouseing. Change over to a bias pedal box with hydraulic clutch and your laughing.

There is also a Duratec turbo 2.3 in the Mazda CX7 with a smaller turbo that would be plenty of power for the 950kg esky.

Also MZR=Duratec=I4

2008/09/16 18:53:54
T_Mark
Thanks for confirming that bill Now just gotta find a wreck for cheap and it's duratime[88] Wont be for quite a while yet but hopefully by then there will be more wrecks to choose from!
2008/09/16 20:01:09
bhempstead
This is what I believe aswell. As the wrecks become available then this conversion will be more economical. I will soon be in position to report on how much power you can get from a standard 2.3 and what an escort is like to drive with this engine. Then there will more escort lovers booking there ticket for the go zone. ACDC's song Get youself a ticket for the Go Zone is my theme song for the Youtube video I am doing for the completion of my project.
2008/09/16 22:35:04
T_Mark
Yep i want a ticket to the go zone for sure Iv'e been told by so many people that a half cut with an srd0det would be much cheaper power. . .which it may be, But it doesnt seem right to me[B)] At least the I4 is basicallya ford engine

The amount of good reports iv'e seen so far on the I4 gets my hopes up for it, including the work done by sbd in the uk to date
Now that i know the engine comes in a turbo version thats just another thing off my list of research!. It may even work out cheaper than turboing a standard 2 litre I4??
Now what i want to find out is..
1> If the same exaust manifold can be used from the mazda?
2> If you can use the same throttle setup and possibly ECU?
I think i would want to start off with keeping the turbo I4 completely standard to start with so hopefully most of the standard engine gear can be used. . . Plenty of power to start with[:x)][:x)]
I guess a front mount intercooler would have to be used also as the one on top would surely foul the bonnet!
Bill do you know if there is any other benefits of the 2.3 over the 2.0 other than torque?

Sorry for the ramble but it helps me to write this down . . Although now i will probably go to bed and have nightmares about duratecs in the go zone[88][88]
2008/09/17 16:51:58
bhempstead
1> If the same exhaust manifold can be used from the mazda?
It looks as if you could, just use the cast iron manifold bolted to the head and make up your on dump pipe. For a turbo you will have to use it but for na it would be restrictive.

2> If you can use the same throttle setup and possibly ECU?
Not likely becauae the ignition system & dash is combined with the ECU. You would have to graft the ford/mazda inginition to your esky column and graft in the ford mazda dash board. Then you will have to get a CAMBus adapter to turn off the other settings like doors are open warning light and the list goes on and on. But in saying that the clubman guys have to work through all this so it has been done.

Other benefits between the 2.3 and 2.0 not much, but lots of cosworth parts. cranks, rods, pistons, cams and heads.

Definitely get the Duratec engine with VCT its a must.

2008/09/23 11:57:32
T_Mark
Have still been researching Found these pics of an mx5 on the turbosport forum, Thanks for that bob2? Anyway this 2 litre i4 with 6 speed(ithink) is already around the right way as the mx5 is RWD But look at the size of that box[:0] Looks like it may be a challenge to fit in an escort tunnel? I also noted that the engine is sitting far back in the bay which may or may not be an advantage?? ie mounting hole for shifter in mk2 to far forward or too far back?? Water rail may be utilised also ??



Other pics not working . . will upload later



2008/09/23 17:23:21
T_Mark
let's Try Again[:u]








2008/09/23 18:26:20
bhempstead
It is sitting that far back for weight distribution.
This motor will still bolt up like my photos.
Measure the mx5 box and compare with sierra type 9
An auto tunnel escort is a must.

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