2010/07/12 23:07:24
ricktewagon
hey guys wonderin if any of u have or have had a 350 holley on a pinto? how did it run, is there any point?? ive got the weber on and it runs good just askin coz ive got 1 on my 200 x-flow but ill be changing the engine and probably wont use it.....just a thought any help appreciated
Rick
2010/07/12 23:27:03
spigot
Holley carbys, specifically the 2300 (your 350), 4150, and the 4160 are very basic carbys. But, they work quite well even on mismatched applications (I had a 650dp on a 265 hemi 6) and are cheap and easy to source parts for. They are also a good carby to learn on, you can easily modify them a little or a lot.

There is only a couple of basic gudelines/rules to follow and you can't go wrong if you want to give it a go.
2010/08/12 22:17:58
maxrs
Angular discharge Holley carbs work well on Pintos.
Stay away from the Holley's with mechanical secondaries.
2010/09/12 00:14:17
spigot
quote:
Originally posted by maxrs

Angular discharge Holley carbs work well on Pintos.
Stay away from the Holley's with mechanical secondaries.



I think you mean annular booster??

There is nothing wrong in using a mechanical secondary carby apart from the fact the original question regarded a 350 and a mechanical secondary holley doesn't really come smaller than a 600dp. Double pumpers are ten times easier to tune right.
2012/04/16 16:41:10
Monaroman68
hey spigot whats your take on using a holley on a high hp pinto and what would you suggest
2012/04/16 16:54:13
Matt75
I heard somewhere they leak on right (maybe left) hand corners.
 
Cheers
 
Matt
2012/04/16 18:47:34
Flighter
I have one of the rare Model 2305 Holley's on my Pinto, which is a progressive mechanical linkage 2 barrel 350 cfm with annual boosters that is designed for big 4 cylinder engines (or small 6s).  The only thing you can buy to mount it or a regular 2300 is the adapter plate, so you have to be prepared to cobble up a linkage yourself if using a Holley.  The 2305 works well, providing a much torquier output than the stock weber, although is probably a bit too big in overall flow capacity.  Physically it is certainly tall compared to a Weber too, so bonnet clearance is an issue if you want to use a filter larger than 9" diameter and 2" tall.  I've also heard from a local Ford tuner that he's never been able to get a 2300 to work well, which doesn't surprise me seeing they are designed for much larger engines.
 
If you are considering a 4 barrel, there is only one to use - a 390 cfm from many moons ago that again was designed specifically for small displacement engines, and of course you'll need a good 4 barrel manifold.  The current 390 is NOT 4 cylinder compatible, so if you are really keen on a four barrel then let me know and I'll dig out the model number to look for.  I hear they sell at premium prices though given their rarity, and with Holleys there are so many interchangeable parts that you never know what you are going to get unless you ask all the right questions to ID metering blocks etc.
 
If I didn't have the 2305 already I'd just go with a 38DGAS for extra pep as they bolt right on and are known to work well.  These days they are pretty cheap brand new in the USA too (about US$220).
2012/04/17 19:11:30
spigot
Holleys are a good basic carby to learn on. In stock form they will just about muddle through anything.

A 350 Holley would be great on a mild power up. When you're chasing big hp I personally would not use a Holley. Bigger 4 barrel carbies will have weaker booster signal than say a multi dcoe setup. This is due to the fact that on dcoes each cylinder is feed by only one barrel. With the Holley each cylinder is pulling from a common plenum as well as fighting each other, amongst many other variables.

Leaking on turns would be due to a misadjusted float level or missing float vent tube. On severe applications you can slip rubber hose over the vent tube to extend it.

If the Holley was such a crap carby you would have to ask why it is probably the most modified, copied, repaired, and tuner supported carby in the world!!
2012/04/30 09:00:35
Monaroman68
holy smokes guys got a shock with the holley , had a couple 350's from our holden speedway days and whacked one on ran staight up and idled pretty good .vacuum is quite low so i changed the power valve to suit which is a 3.5 and running very good (running avgas) havent had to dyno yet but we have our own track and i'm having trouble telling the difference in power from the 45's thing flys . waiting on getting a 4bbl to try also when dyno time comes around .looks like might be selling the 45's very soon.
2012/04/30 13:06:06
Wozzah
Monaroman68

holy smokes guys got a shock with the holley , had a couple 350's from our holden speedway days and whacked one on ran staight up and idled pretty good .vacuum is quite low so i changed the power valve to suit which is a 3.5 and running very good (running avgas) havent had to dyno yet but we have our own track and i'm having trouble telling the difference in power from the 45's thing flys . waiting on getting a 4bbl to try also when dyno time comes around .looks like might be selling the 45's very soon.

 
Whilst the 350 works very well on a pinto, if it's better than the twin 45's on there, then something is very wrong with the set up.  I've never had a holley make better power than the correct weber set up.
 
Woz
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