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  • Pinto/Kent. NA side draughts or Blow through turbo? (p.2)

2012/08/07 21:11:09
ratta tat tat
EFI on a Kent motor? Now that would be expensive.
The link I put up earlier (turbogemini) has malpassi regs and VL pumps in his kits with hi and lo pressure fuel lines etc for what looks to be reasonable prices. I'm expecting a reply from him soon re: pricing for some of those parts 
2012/08/07 21:39:09
Bacca
I'm not going to try and influence you as you know which way I have gone. But what are your goals for the car? Is it going to be a daily driver, race car, etc, etc and go from there.
 
I went the way I did for a number of reasons. I wasn't after a big horsepower increase. I just wanted something to give me that extra poke when out on cruises, or the freeway where you need to overtake. The car was already built and painted from a number of years ago so I didn't want to go about cutting it up to fit intercoolers or changing the firewall, etc. Most importantly I had all the correct gear sitting in the shed not being used (no re-sale value for a suck through setup) and I wanted to build the car so as to keep it in the era.
 
Personally I wouldn't try to go blow through as work is required on the carbs to handle boost plus fuel pressure regulators and so on. I have seen some that have intercoolers and ECU's to run them. You may as well go the EFI route. As suggested to much hassle, it makes much more sense now days to go with something more modern like Zetec or Duratec.
 
The one thing for sure though is once you have turboed it and DRIVEN it, you will never want to go back to carbs.
 
 
 
2012/08/07 22:23:51
ratta tat tat
Hi Theo, thanks for joining the conversation.
My car is being used as a weekend warrior and I plan to keep it that way. I'm quite happy with how it is now but like you were,  I'm chasing just that little bit of extra power.
A Duratec/Zetec conversion is the ultimate but like the point you made earlier about resale, well good luck getting back the 20K it would cost to install and engineer such a project.
I have a T25 sitting around doing nothing, and a spare 711M bottom end that could have forgies in it :)
I drive a turbo diesel work vehicle every weekday so I'm quite familiar with that feeling of being pushed back into the seat. It would be great having that in my esky.
 
2012/08/07 22:32:19
tybrown
I had a look at blow through but as everyone else said, it becomes just as expensive as efi... i am currently putting together a draw through setup which is much easier
still costs money but there is less to buy etc... and the fuel mixture is already done so no need to worry about leaning out (well not as much as blow through)
 
I will attach a couple of pics... this little mk1 was for sale in 2002 and i nearly bought it (not sure where it is now?) but it was running a pinto with cosworth pistons and rods, worked head and a to4b turbo with a 45 webber draw through... it was making over 300bhp to the rear wheels and ran a 11.47 at 127.30 mph recorded at willowbank! sounded like a lumpy pinto.... and drove like one too untill it hit 30psi! :-D this thing is the reason why i am building a pinto draw though... you have a similar car... DO IT :-D

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2012/08/07 22:48:55
ratta tat tat
haha, hey Ty.
That's one mean escort. The more I consider Theo's first question (my goals for the car), the more I think about using the pinto. It's in pretty good shape and the T25 is probably more suited to it than the 1.6. What sort of transmission was that escort using?
2012/08/07 22:59:55
tybrown
All these questions means more money hahaha.... he was using a hilux diff and supra box! anything over 200bhp is going to cause big mods im afraid! but that said you can def get lots more poke cheaper with turbo draw through than what it costs N/A and blow through... (im no expert, just opinion) if you have the 40webber all you need to do it get an adaptor made for it to mate to the turbo, run a pipe from turbo to standard inlet manifold, obviously an exhaust manifold and system.. and your done.. run 6 to 9 psi on stock internals and you will have plenty of go? sounds easy but obviously its still a big job lol and really there is no need for an intercooler on the street... if you are worried about intake charge temps you can get a water injection spray kit (you can make one from parts at Jaycar) thats what i will be doing! might even try nitro lol...
2012/08/08 05:28:52
joeyjonsey
ratta tat tat

EFI on a Kent motor? Now that would be expensive.
The link I put up earlier (turbogemini) has malpassi regs and VL pumps in his kits with hi and lo pressure fuel lines etc for what looks to be reasonable prices. I'm expecting a reply from him soon re: pricing for some of those parts 


Adapter plate with ea falcon tpi,can't get cheaper than that
2012/08/08 12:53:24
pj
Iam sad to say that the kent in the photo no longer has the turbo on it and its a dog to drive now
It made 130hp with 7psi at wheels so it was fun to drive
All stock with a decompression plate.
Motor did not break just issue with club reg
PJ
2012/08/08 14:48:48
ratta tat tat
Can you elaborate on that PJ?? What problems arose with club rego? Does NSW conduct inspections with rego renewals??
2012/08/08 15:13:11
ratta tat tat
joeyjonsey Adapter plate with ea falcon tpi,can't get cheaper than that

Hi Jonsey. Do you mean the centrepoint injection throttle body? What would be a suitable computer for that set up? Thanks

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