Im with phil here. My two cents is the old syaing judge not youself unles you want to be judged.

It reminds me of a person i know who openlty critsised my car but they drove a rusty old Dihatsu charade. each to thier own i suppose.

this sort of talk pushes people away from clubs & forums, which some people may say, good i dont want them around but at the end of the day it gives everyone involved in the scene a bad name & drives people away. Do we want to be viewed as a bunch of snobs!!

It would not suprise me if george walked away from this scene, i probably would.

well said neale !!!

i strongly agree that we can not b pushing these cars away nor the people that own them because as a perfect example there is another car in the pipeline and it will defiently b as superb as this one.

if it was me and i saw all this garbage written about my car simply because of the engine selection and the size of the wheels there is no way i would b coming back on here nor would i b showing anythign else i had.

im sure these wheels would b 19s and i think the width has alot to do with the oversize look of it but keep in mind phil has just pushed 18s on his car and it looks awesome !!! wats an inch in the scheme of things.

anyway ... we need to not look at labels and sizes and b looking at the car for wats gone into it!!! theres not many mk1s around these days and certainly not alot modified like this one we should be appreciating it

enjoy it!!!

I am a bit suprised people have got so emotional over this blokes car. Its obviously what he wanted to build so he did isnt that why we do it, for ourselves.

I think the owner achieved what his set out to achive which is get everyone to look/talk about it weither it be in a good or bad way.

in my eyes anyone that spends a crap load of time and money on car of there choice, doesnt matter what they've done to it as you learn to respect it. As iam sure majority of people on here along with me know how much blood ,sweet, tears, enjoyment,anger etc that a car puts you through during the build, but at the end of the day its your car and its the way you've pictured it.

As for being different i think thats almost impossible as nearly every "realistic" engine conversion has been done to any small 4cyl car, but you build a car to suit your likings not anyone elses. Isnt that the whole idea/reason behind building a car?

I know that some people may not agree with putting jap engines in old cars but when you think about it isnt a cosworth, duratech, zetech, etc pretty much a uk veriosn of jap sepc engines? use will probably all turn around and say but there all ford engine and escort come for the uk along with thoes sort of engines, but to me its pretty much along the same lines.

I like both jap, oldschool, new school cars etc, but i decided to go jap as i like the both of both worlds.Yes its an FJ20, yes its been done befor but it hasnt been done the way i want it.

thats how i see it all anyway but nice car give or take a few things.

cheers

Wont ever see me or my car at any classic ford get togethers[:(!],
Oviously to many narrow minded and disrespectful people to please...
How dare people have there own ambitions!! "Freedom of speech" and "disrespect"[B)] are two diferent things to Me, But maybe Im old school??? Thought this was a pretty cool forum when I first joined...

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my view on the car is, there to hard to get and to rare to just go cut up and put massive rims and engines

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but not too rare to rally ?

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lol my cars far from a rally car mk2 4 door 1300 xl used for motorkhana and khanacross double sway bars and 5 leaf rear springs for slides oh and a hydraulic hand brake basicly still a stock car could put it back on the road if i took the handbrake out

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Originally posted by SCOOP

Wont ever see me or my car at any classic ford get togethers[:(!],
Oviously to many narrow minded and disrespectful people to please...
How dare people have there own ambitions!! "Freedom of speech" and "disrespect"[B)] are two diferent things to Me, But maybe Im old school??? Thought this was a pretty cool forum when I first joined...

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A little dramatic don't you think? There are over 1000 members of this forum... I hardly think the opinion of a handful of members can be viewed as the voice of the forum!
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It seems fairly clear that the owner of this car was aiming for WOW factor and he has certainly achieved it! Whether you like it or not, it turns heads and seems to push the limits in almost every area.

The owner is no stranger to building/modifying Escorts and it would no doubt get boring building them to the same spec every time. He has chosen a radical and controversial approach in this car, but if it's what he wanted, then good on him for having the time, patience, money, balls etc to do so. Even if you don't like the finished product, I think you have to admire the engineering and finish of the car. At the end of the day this car is the result of many hours and dollars and it takes dedication and enthusiasm to produce such a result.

If you don't like it, you are probably better off keeping your opinions to yourself but this is a discussion forum so I guess some people feel compelled to express those opinions here. I would just advise however that discretion is used when criticising someones elses hard work. We have lost forum members in the past who dared push the boundaries of modifying their small Ford's and I for one think that is a real shame.

I can understand people getting upset over the desecration of a classic Ford, but let's face it, he hasn't set fire to the thing! You could easily convert this car back to a pinto powered Mk1 with standard interior sitting on some 15x8's over a busy weekend.

Please give thought to what you post in the forum and also keep in mind that the opinions of some doesn't speak for the forum as a whole. You will never find absolute agreeance with a group of over 1000 people but this is what makes the forum diverse.

The notion of 'if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything' should be left at primary school where it belongs. The owner of this vehicle knows exactly the controversy a car like this brings to the small ford community, and i think he himself would be surprised if there werent two opposing opinions.

If the owner of this vehicle didn't want his car criticised, he should just leave it in his shed. But im sure he has much thicker skin than that. There are way more positives than negatives in this thread.

This is a public forum and i sure want to hear if someone doesnt like my car or any other. If i wasn't prepared to hear opinions (good and bad) then i wouldn't be posting images or a build thread here.

The wording of a few posts could have been better, but no one is discrediting the effort or detail in this car. But people being called a sheep for not automatically liking this car...

This is what the car used to look like. It was an absolute inspiration to me when a started my project. Infact these two photos were what made me go out and buy a mk1...

Also have the magazine here it was featured in, will upload if i have time.

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Originally posted by SCOOP

Wont ever see me or my car at any classic ford get togethers[:(!],
Oviously to many narrow minded and disrespectful people to please...
How dare people have there own ambitions!! "Freedom of speech" and "disrespect"[B)] are two diferent things to Me, But maybe Im old school??? Thought this was a pretty cool forum when I first joined...

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A little dramatic don't you think? There are over 1000 members of this forum... I hardly think the opinion of a handful of members can be viewed as the voice of the forum!
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But Sean, the majority of the negative comments come from members who should know better and have been around this forum for a while.

Scoop, I agree with what you're saying but don't hide you're masterpeice from the public because of a few people who are armchair car builders, they know how to build the ultimate Escort/Cortina but you never see them completed/started.

You build or "do up" a car to your specs not to their specs, if people said the same things about Phil's Cortina there would be riot on this forum and Phil would not what to share his build with us.