my opinion on the VE's,
there good cars, if your after a quiet and smooth ride.
the engine sound seems to bug me though, its drony and winy..
and the plastic interior trims all are horrible quality, feel around and most of the peices will pop out or flex like you wouldn't believe.
otherwise, i see nothing wrong with them, mainly because there not being done up by tools yet. (20's, 4 subs, etc)