2011/08/24 13:07:08
micka
if its possible, how would you do it?

Say the rules were
no efi
pinto based

can it be done with NA or only FI?


Secondly, how would you get that power to the ground?

Cheers boys.
Food for though :D
2011/08/24 14:17:06
gazz
as the standard pinto is only around the 100hp mark, you are talking about 180hp.
it has been done many times. many different ways.
have a look at some of the members cars im sure you will find a few in there.
or have a look on some of the other forums, there should be plenty of examples.
http://www.rsmotorsport.com.au/forums/index.php
http://www.turbosport.co.uk/
 
2011/08/24 15:12:41
Juiceman
It's all about getting as much fuel and air through as possible!
Here's how I'd do it:
Port the head as far as it can go, get a good cam with a nice power band of say 3000-7000 (crow do a wicked street/race cam with great specs and the same power band that I had on my old Pinto), get some bigger valves and good valve springs to get the extra revs, and some twin 48 DCOE/DHLA's as a minimum.
For the bottom end I'd probably have it bored out 60thou at least, then do necessary strengthening such as pistons and rods.
With that sorted you can move on to a good electronic ignition, and a good electronic fuel pump (anything that's not a Holley, that's just my opinion and preference) and also a good exhaust is definitely important, I wouldn't bother with an "off the shelf" system ;)
 
Makes me want to do it now. Hahaha.
2011/08/24 22:48:46
micka
did look at that, but essentially i got no idea where you shop for parts for things like this.
2011/08/25 07:23:27
Juiceman
Check out RetroFord and ClassicFord magazines, they list oodles of places to get parts for your classicford :)
2011/08/27 22:09:03
micka
cool ill have a bo peep.
 
an idea ive been toying with, 
on a hot build would a holley 650 spreadbore DP work in place of twin webbers?
 
i have a new one around here from my old 308. was hoping id use it one day
2011/12/04 21:08:55
jimmyd
Might work with Ofenhauser 4 barrel manifold?
 

2011/12/04 22:08:40
esky79
Lots of port work, big cam, deck the head and block, 40thou over acl flattop pistons get the compression up to 10.5:1, oversized valves, double valvesprings etc good ignition setup twin 45mm webber carbs =140rwhp and 200+ with a shot of gas... Thats wat a mate had

If i was to do it i would keep the pinto standard and put a small (t28) turbo on it and run 12-15psi
2011/12/05 09:00:38
evobda2
180hp+ from a pinto is easily doable but is starting to push it to the top limit of reliability of the standard crank and rods etc. And the suggestions above are pretty spot on. However its still not a cheap exercise once you add everything up (if using new parts and labour for someone to do the headwork), and its not going to last as long as you may think before it gets a bit tired.
The pinto has torque in bucket loads , but the downside is its a unbelievably heavy lump of a thing. And does have a negative effect on handling which needs to be compensated for.
 
2.1 Pinto on 45's or even 48's, decent cam, good headwork, larger valves and good compression is the usual spec for a fast road/race.  Id also recommend getting a cam grind that favours torque rather than high end revs power. With the pinto torque is the key to making it move. High power revving pinto's will cost you a fortune and are really only suitable for flat out race applications.
 
Here's a rough guide from Burton: http://www.burtonpower.co...into-tuning-guide.html

180hp seems to be a good figure in a small ford. Makes a lively handling car a nice quick joy to drive. Hence why a number of people are opting for the more reliable Zetec & Duratec options. Which can have that sort of power very easily with reliability and drivability.  While the conversion cost isn't too far off having a decent spec pinto rebuilt.
 
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