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  • Rally Design vs Gartrac Pedalbox (p.2)

2009/08/12 22:48:38
martymexico
quote:
Originally posted by esc-078

martymexico, since you worked with the Gartrac and RelDes boxes, what complaints or faults did you hear of / know of? Do you make yours to Gartrac spec's with OE pedals ect?


We only got a few in of each to compare, bear in mind this is going back into the '90's when RalDes was using 'real' pedalboxes and were possibly from Gartrac or T.A.S.(Trans AutoSport), we never brought in the RalDes RHS bias'boxes as we thought they'd not sell, by then we were building our own on an Exchange basis .
i make mine using Wilwood balance bars, mine use the original pedals modified for a std looking setup, most of my stuff is from USA rather than UK due to post and exchange rates
2009/08/12 23:18:16
Mickas
quote:
Originally posted by danny m

I'm surprised Smacka has dropped in yet

Danny



What took you soo loong....
2009/09/12 07:56:40
Phil
By the looks of the links there are only 2 manufacturers in the UK so best price on either type wins
quote:
Originally posted by danny m

I'm surprised Smacka has dropped in yet

Danny



I think everyone knows he has boxes from Rallydesign or Burtons in stock[;^)]
2009/09/12 08:56:19
Smcka
quote:
Originally posted by danny m

I'm surprised Smacka has dropped in yet

Danny



I'm too busy looking at other forums and laughing at you wrecking 2 cars and then scrounging around pi ss ing everyone off by saying you'll buy cars then not. And trying to flog bodgy parts yourself. Least no ones ever offered to stick any of mine up my rectum.
You hit walls, wildlife... what next? I'd walk to work mate its probably better for you and the rest of us.
2009/12/15 21:52:45
groupcracer
Just a comment stay away from early Rally design ones....they have a design flaw in the brake peadl which allows you bend the pedal across not just up and down which eventually fatigues them.....

Later ones may have fixed this though.....the weakness is at the top of the brake pedal.

my 2 cents
2009/12/19 08:06:16
Torren
The quality of Gartrak fabricated equipment has gone down hill since they were working on the works cars.although it does do the job.The only problem we discovered with them is that on long stages the brake fade would mean you had to pump the pedal.for this reason we designed a pedal box which reduced this effect but required you to be firmer with the pedal I believe it costs £260 retail but is one of the few pedal boxes on the market which allows enough space to install power steering (contact me if your interested).I would stay away from rally design stuff in general to be honest. They have started buying everything from china these days and the stuff is (for want of a better word) Pants .Ralloy are making some really good stuff especially their alloy work. If their quality is reflected in their pedal boxes i would go for that
2009/12/22 10:59:30
Re-e-e-e-Wind
"I would stay away from rally design stuff in general to be honest. They have started buying everything from china these days and the stuff is (for want of a better word) Pants ."

Nice Torren, I looked at the RalDes parts and clearly they do not buy EVERYthing from China. I see that smcka has a lot of their parts and he does seem to be getting good reviews on these forums, so that speaks well for him and his parts eh. What are you running and whos parts do you use and why?

I just joined this forum as I plan to get a MK1 or MK2 Escort for 2010 and build a fast road/track car and I was hoping to find good knowledge, tips feedback etc. And it just seems we sit here all evening slagging people off from misinformed over opinionated armchair slobs who have nothing better to do! I wonder if I am in the right place, please let me find an interesting thread to read soon.......
2009/12/22 20:29:11
Torren
I work for a company who manufactures virtually everything for top end suppliers and for use on our own cars.they do no yet buy everything from China but for pricing reasons its heading that way. Rally design will not be beaten on price due to their bulk buying and is a good budget option and some of their items do the job just as well.However i believe often you get what you pay for,and brakes in my opinion are very important for safety.
In a modern spec car we are currently building we are fitting the AP Racing CP5516-7
which seems like a very well engineered tight pedal box.


For historic spec cars we manufacture our own based on a standard ford pedal box similar to Gartraks

Prior to your post smcka has contacted me looking into a possible supply of higher end components so that people have the option. I plan on manufacturing them in Australia if i migrate. smcka is a supplier and will be getting good reviews due to his good customer service and high interest in the items which he supplies.
2009/12/22 21:45:28
danny m
this is starting to look intersting


Danny
2009/12/22 22:28:36
muzza
I've personally purchased the pedal box that SMCKA sells and found it to be a get item, a few little mods needed however it (strengthwise) seems to be upto the task, 95% of people installing a pedalbox would be tossing the booster thus giving the brake pedal a beating, the weak point in the Escorts is the firewall it mounts to and it flexs under heavy braking and thus less efficient braking. If making a decision probably best to listen to people who have 1st hand experiences with either pedal boxes.
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