well im no longer into the automotive trade as far as work goes...

but as far as i can tell yeah, the handbrake shaft u move a really small amount and it locks the drum (on p/s, just imitated on d/s)

lever is about 6-7 clicks upward.

and the hose clamp on the rear hose didn't change the pedal feel at all.

ill inspect the calipers and lines.

rs31mark, you may be onto something so ill go have a look.

thanks for the help phil.

well, quick look in the darkness, calipers definately arent upside down.

well talking to a mate i met off the forum, rekons the caliper spacers from smcka's kit, that involves the fluid O-RINGS, may be leaking.....

otherwise yeah, back to base 1, ill just have to give it some more time bleeding.

That will be very obvious if thats the case...I dont think that will be your problem, a leak will typically cause a sinking pedal,not a spongey pedal

Have to agree with Phil, if you had a leak unless it was a major leak you'd still be able too bleed the brakes, you'd as phil says have a sinking pedal.When you open the bleed nipple do you get a good "shot" of fluid?

Have you bled the master off the car??

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Originally posted by Mickas

Have you bled the master off the car??

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no, i installed it, and filled the resevoir. then bled the system

Don't you think the angle of the master, it would trap air in the end of it?? Just for shyts and giggles take it off, bleed it in a bench vice then block the holes and wack it back on.

I was taught to always "bench bleed" a master cylinder (in a vice) before fitting, but it can be done on the car by normal bleeding methods by cracking the flare fittings into the master cylinder instead of the bleed nipples on the calipers. This may take some time and several attempts to rid the MC of air. Then always bleed brakes from the point furtherest from the MC to the closest. Dont take any chances with brakes. Any mechanic can help you from destroying your car and yourself.........

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Originally posted by hoogs544

I was taught to always "bench bleed" a master cylinder (in a vice) before fitting, but it can be done on the car by normal bleeding methods by cracking the flare fittings into the master cylinder instead of the bleed nipples on the calipers. This may take some time and several attempts to rid the MC of air. Then always bleed brakes from the point furtherest from the MC to the closest. Dont take any chances with brakes. Any mechanic can help you from destroying your car and yourself.........

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Yes you can bleed some on cars but if you look at the angle of the escort one it should be off car bled.