2014/07/08 15:47:46
75Van
A quick question for those more knowledgeable  than me…
 
How many revs is too high for cruising along the highway in a standard spec 1600 Kent with a standard gearbox and a 4.11 diff?  Is it too much to be cruising along at around 100km/h with the engine sitting at 3800-4000rpm – will this eventually burn up valves/piston rings/the entire engine?  Is around 3500 much safer, or is 4000+ okay?
 
Reason I ask is that to get to work I travel on the highway for about 10kms each morning and afternoon, and don’t want to be lunching the engine for the sake of doing 500 less revs – and vice versa don’t want to be just going much slower when the engine could be quite happy revving quite high.  I also want to get into travelling further afield (100kms away) more often, and want to find out this before I start (and before I may end up stuck on the side of the road!).
 
More than happy to hear all suggestions and opinions! :)
2014/07/08 18:20:32
martymexico
Slot a 3.77 diff centre in will help lower revs and be economical ...less cabin noise too.
2014/07/08 18:59:38
75Van
Cheers Marty, I should have stated that I do want to put a 3.77 (or 3.54) geared diff in, and possibly a type 9 box as well, but I have to save up the $$$ first, and also find them!

In the meantime, I just want to make sure that I'm not doing damage but also not going TOO gently! :)
2014/07/09 18:28:40
Eskie92
Less revs you can get your car to do at higher cruising speeds will be better for the engine but with the loss of acceleration. I'm unsure what ratio diff I have since I have a MK2 diff in my van and not sure what car it came from but I can drive the at 110km/h with no problems at all. Unsure what revs I'm doing though due to not having a tacho.
2014/07/10 08:53:22
Gdub
If you plan to put a 5 speed in leave the ratio you have as 5th will give you the relief on the highway and you will still have the better acceleration.  I have a 3.54 with a 5 speed in my RS and it is kind of pointless.  You simply cant use 5th under 100km because it cant accelerate.  I will be putting a 3.89 in that when it goes back together.
 
Also, this is just a personal peave - unless your car has an Aussie borg warner diff (e.g. plate on the rear) there is no such thing as a 4.11 ratio in an escort!  The front loaders or english axle ratio is 4.125.  Nit-picky i know, but every time i hear someone say "i have 'four-eleven' diff ratio" i really want to poke them in the eyes 3 stooges style!
:-)
2014/07/10 13:07:54
75Van
Gdub
If you plan to put a 5 speed in leave the ratio you have as 5th will give you the relief on the highway and you will still have the better acceleration.  I have a 3.54 with a 5 speed in my RS and it is kind of pointless.  You simply cant use 5th under 100km because it cant accelerate.  I will be putting a 3.89 in that when it goes back together.
 
Also, this is just a personal peave - unless your car has an Aussie borg warner diff (e.g. plate on the rear) there is no such thing as a 4.11 ratio in an escort!  The front loaders or english axle ratio is 4.125.  Nit-picky i know, but every time i hear someone say "i have 'four-eleven' diff ratio" i really want to poke them in the eyes 3 stooges style!
:-)




Cheers guys - after reading the above I'm thinking that I might look for an entire 3.54 diff (or other ratio) that I can 'chuck on' for at least the short term, but keep the 4.11 I have for if/when I get a 5 speed.
 
I understand the personal peeve, but the one that's under my van certainly is a Borg Warner with a 4.11 tag on it and a rear plate.  Admittedly you can change the tag easily, but I've matched up the gearbox ratios, speedo and rev counts (fitted a cheap, crappy tacho to get an idea of what's going on) with the calculator on the osella site, and it matches the 4.11 ratio.
 
2014/07/10 19:29:19
PeterM
Several years ago I fitted a late model 3.54:1 centre to my unmodified/factory standard 1979 built 1600 Escort panel van. All works very well including up to the 110kmh speed limits.
 
Cost was about $120 for the centre, made a gasket and found some diff oil.
 
If you decide to do the change over you will definitely notice the difference.
 
2014/07/10 19:48:17
RSman4ever
I swapped a 4.1 for a 3.7 behind a xflow and 4speed,185/60/13 and it dropped the revs by about 400rpm does 100kph at about 3700/3750rpm. A 3.5 ratio might get ya down close to 3500rpm. Its not a standard engine but may give U a bit of an idea

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