2019/10/04 06:56:09
Den
Thanks for info, is any one able give us understanding
90d heads , are they d port heads.
2019/10/04 10:59:23
BEE VEE
Wiggy333
 As for CKME17 as has been stated many times their was only eleven made. I owned a vehicle which had CK17Me34053p highest chassis known but it was an oval port engine.



Hi Wiggy, "if I'm not very much mistaken", your note as above appears contaradictory ?
 
My understanding from Terry, "if I'm not very much mistaken", is that ALL V6 engines,
Oval and D-port, were given the prefix CK17ME from August 72 to end of Aussie production ?
 
Who was that Formula 1 TV commentator, who was famous for saying before each observation
 "if I'm not very much mistaken" ?  (Can see his face but cant recall his name)
 
 
2019/10/04 11:01:58
BEE VEE
Can we confirm ALL "Eleven Specials" are D-port 165 HP engines ?
2019/10/04 16:13:44
Wiggy333
Bernie the way I take this whole situation is that during production cars got mixed up so say number 91 didn't come out before 92 (Ck17me19091 compared to 92) reasons might be sunroof or colour paint done in batches. The 11 specials for some reason waited after paint for their running gear which ran out and weren't available. So ford shipped in the facelift gear to clear the cars out. All cars from that time were made and some sold so got finished with the available motors and running gear being Oval port. The 11 cars only reffered by you owners as special ( no pun intended) were sitting unfinished at the factory. Cars of different colour or specs were still being shipped to dealers to be sold and final sales were dependant on the dealers ability to sell. So some sold quicker than others. I as you all are is just speculating on what happened.
The cars weren't sold as special cars but had the different updated motor. So were better.
End of the day the last chassis numbers known were CK17ME plus numbers a d all were from August onwards.
I owned CK17ME 34053P which could have been last car to start the production line (unless another comes up higher?) But it finished on the production line before these 11 cars for reasons we can only guess. Hence why it had its designated motor from the old oval port motors. I hope I'm making sense. I worked at a car mob storing cars off ships for sale some sat for no time and some for 2 years. As each was sold a stereo was put in and the plate stamped with that days date so a new car is not really a new car but just new to the owner. Cheers.
2019/10/04 21:11:48
gtv6capri
Ok just so we are clear.  Here are 2 heads D port and Oval Port. 

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2019/10/04 21:17:53
gtv6capri
Now here are 2 timing covers, Oval port has the fan offset to the left.  D Port has the fan in line with the crank 

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2019/10/04 21:23:00
gtv6capri
Now for Inlet manifolds, Oval Port has the extra round casting lump near the thermostat.  D Port is smooth 

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2019/10/04 21:42:00
gtv6capri
Den, the engine you have in your car is an Oval Port.  Despite its CK17ME prefix, it is not from one of the 11 "special" capris.  It is just an engine from a capri delivered in August 1972. 
 
The crossmember and steering rack in your other photos are Mk1 V6 Capri items.  The 11 Specials did not use anything different in that regard.  All V6 capris (special or not) had a 6 bolt cross member
2019/10/04 21:57:59
BEE VEE
Wiggy, it's history like your recollections that really adds to the pleasure of owning these classics.
 
I hope one day, someone with more time than me, does the comprehensive research needed to write an accurate Aussie Mk1 book just for Capri.
Commerce will dictate that Cortina and Escort should be included, which is fair enough.
 
On history, it's strange our Mk1 Capris which ran from 1969 to 1972 weren't called Mk2,
and the 1965 Consul Capri the Mk1 ! .......  go figure
 
 
2019/10/04 23:18:58
FoxyCapri
BEE VEE
I hope one day, someone with more time than me, does the comprehensive research needed to write an accurate Aussie Mk1 book just for Capri.
Commerce will dictate that Cortina and Escort should be included, which is fair enough.
 
On history, it's strange our Mk1 Capris which ran from 1969 to 1972 weren't called Mk2,
and the 1965 Consul Capri the Mk1 ! .......  go figure

Bernie, nearly a score or more books have already been written about the European Capri, though none are specifically about our Australian assembled Capri's, though they have been mentioned in many of these already published books. IF, a book is ever written just about our Australian assembled Capri's, it could not and should not include Cortina's and Escort's, because there were less than 15,000 Capri's assembled here in Australia between April, 1969 and November, 1972, a very small number compared to Cortina's and Escort's. Cortina's were assembled here from late 1962 through to August, 1982, how many is anyone's guess, but it would be over the 100,000 mark and Escorts were assembled here from early 1970 through to March, 1981 and there were, according to official Ford Australia records, 146,849 Escort's built here in Australia during that period.
 
As for the Consul Capri (1962-1964) potentially being a Mk.1, there were Capri's before that during the 1950's in the USA, Lincoln Cosmopolitan Capri's and Lincoln Capri's and then, there were also Mercury Comet Capri's in the mid-60's in the USA, before the actual European Mk.1 Capri came out in 1969. Any Capri prior to Mk.1 in 1969 however was on a completely different chassis to the European Capri! Also, whilst the Mk.3 Capri was around from 1978 to 1986, there was also a Mercury Capri, again in the USA, based on the Fox platform, from 1979 through to 1986, these were cousins of the Ford Mustang of that same era, with different sheet metal and many other cosmetic changes and engine combo's. Then of course there was the Australian Capri Convertible from 1988-1994. I hope that helps you with your dilemma about the Capri name and where it's come from. What we now know as the Mk.1, 2 & 3 Capri's, are all based upon the same or very similar chassis, which is why they are bracketed together and called the European Capri. I hope all this helps.
Cheers, Terry
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