2013/05/24 18:05:13
smallvan
What type can i use in my mk2 1600 esky,as i'm doing a lot of road k's.So i'm thinking of getting a 5spd to put in her,so what brands can i use.Toyota, sigma, ford. 
Thanks
 in advance 
2013/05/24 18:10:15
evobda2
Ford Sierra 5 speed bolts straight up, or the other alternative is a Toyota Celica box (steel case are the stronger type) but you'll need a bellhousing from Dellow to suit.
2013/05/24 18:24:31
ratta tat tat
You'll need sh!tloads more than a bellhousing! Toyota 5 speed to Escort kit is $1800 from Dellows.
Toyota spline is 21T so you need clutch plate, toyota yoke, bellhousing, spigot bearing, speedo cable and escort tailshaft made to length with Toyota yoke.
Some of the bits from existing ford gearbox may be usable, like clutch fork and throw out bearing but might be best to check with dellows
There's more than a few ratios with the steel case so factor that in with your diff ratio.
2013/05/24 20:33:43
Matt75
It's about $1100 from Dellows inc all the above but you then need a g/box and they go for about $250 or so.
 
They do need to be set up and there are a number of threads on here that go into this in more detail.
 
I believe the best thing about the celica/supra boxes is that they can be made to fit without having to cut the gear lever hole as yo can get different shifter housings that position the gear lever forward.
 
This is the box i'll use when / if I fit a 5 speed but I'd go the supra box as they are stronger and lighter being alloy.
 
Cheers,
 
Matt 
2013/05/24 20:42:35
ratta tat tat
Hi Matt. Who did you get your price from? I was quoted $1800 when I phoned earlier in the week. Conversion kit to suit pinto
2013/05/24 20:45:04
Matt75
Hey Mate,
 
Mine were from a few months back so they have really put their prices up a heap!
 
There is one for sale on eBay at the moment for $800 inc g/box.
 
Cheers
 
Matt 
2013/05/24 20:50:24
ratta tat tat
The guy I spoke to was admittedly a noob at the company, so could have been his mistake. $1100 is far more reasonable
2013/05/24 20:52:21
Matt75
Yeah, $1,800? Tell him he's dreamin'.
 
Here's the breakdown I got -
 

Bellhousing & pivot ball $450
Pilot bush $25
Clutch plate $125
Thrust race & carrier $125
Gasket $10
Speedo cable $95
Tailshaft yoke $145
Transmission rubber mount $75

Cheers

Matt
2013/05/25 09:35:53
smallvan
Matt75

Yeah, $1,800? Tell him he's dreamin'.

Here's the breakdown I got -


Bellhousing & pivot ball $450
Pilot bush $25
Clutch plate $125
Thrust race & carrier $125
Gasket $10
Speedo cable $95
Tailshaft yoke $145
Transmission rubber mount $75

Cheers

Matt


Why do you need this stuff ? why not modify the toyo stuff to work 
2013/05/25 11:27:57
Paul Dunstan
A manual tunnel will require massaging to fit the Celica box also - I obtained my Dellow kit from an auto shell hence substantially more room.
Some components may be near impossible to modify to fit the application or may require substantial rework to adapt them (bell housing etc) making it unrealistic. Additional to the list above you will need to have the Escort tailshaft shortened and balanced when fitting the Celica yolk.
As also mentioned, there is a geometry mismatch between the Escort clutch pedal and Toyota clutch mechanism as it's difficult to get the clutch to disengage completely when the pedal is pushed to the floor. Apparently the thrust bearing travel required is greater than the stroke of the clutch pedal. I'm unsure if this has been rectified in their current kit but talking to a clutch specialist this can usually be engineered out when setting it up.
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