Go back to home

Fuel additives

Author
gtmadness
Enthusiast
  • Total Posts : 44
  • Scores: 0
  • Reward points: 2117
  • Joined: 2011/08/01 11:02:49
  • Location: adelaide sa Australia
  • Status: offline
2012/11/05 20:43:19 (permalink)
0

Fuel additives

Some time ago now I had my 3lt V6 completely rebuilt. It wasn't built to use unleaded fuel though. Now that I can finally drive it, the builder told me not worry about using any additives in the fuel and just use premium unleaded. I'm not quite sure if I should be doing this or not, So if anyone knows anything about this subject, I'd like to here your thoughts. Thanks guys
#1


7 Replies Related Threads

    the_cheese
    Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 179
    • Scores: 0
    • Reward points: 2501
    • Joined: 2011/08/01 11:02:49
    • Location: Perth WA
    • Status: offline
    Re:Fuel additives 2012/11/05 20:52:08 (permalink)
    0
    Ooh,
     
    I'd be careful there - without hardened valve seats I would definitely be using some sort of valve train lubricant additive.
     
    I've got a nissan patrol on gas and I just picked up one of the flashlube sets from supercheap for $72.
     
    It's got a bottle, mount and adjustable valve so you can mount it in your engine bay, hook it up to a vacuum line, set the drip rate and forget... Until you have to refill the flashlub bottle that is...
     
    That's my 2 cents, but maybe somebody else out there might be a bit more knowledgable...
    #2
    Wozzah
    Aficionado
    • Total Posts : 453
    • Scores: 10
    • Reward points: 3886
    • Joined: 2011/08/01 11:02:49
    • Location: Colac Vic Australia
    • Status: offline
    Re:Fuel additives 2012/11/05 22:15:43 (permalink)
    0
    gtmadness

    Some time ago now I had my 3lt V6 completely rebuilt. It wasn't built to use unleaded fuel though. Now that I can finally drive it, the builder told me not worry about using any additives in the fuel and just use premium unleaded. I'm not quite sure if I should be doing this or not, So if anyone knows anything about this subject, I'd like to here your thoughts. Thanks guys

     
    If the builder is telling you not to then I would listen.  If I'd told you not to run it, and you went ahead and did so anyway and had a problem further down the track, then it would be your problem.
     
    IMO, I completely agree with him.  Unless you're planning on doing big klm's it won't be an issue, and I am yet to see an adative that isn't detrimental to other areas of the engine.  Any engine that I have dismantled that has been run on any form of "valve saver" or similar has horrible deposits on the valve stems (to a point wear the valve sticks) and in the combustion chamber (causing detonation), and I would say in almost all of the the cause of the engine wear/failure to start with.  I would run a good quality 98 premium with no adative.
     
    Cheers
    Woz

    Mk1 RS2000 replica (IP hillclimb car) fitted with Ford Laser 1.8 DOHC (BP) Cossy cams, Webers, 230hp
    EB XR8 5sp, heads, cam, extractors.
    http://www.facebook.com/p...rmance/135194779879292
    #3

    SFE
    Aficionado
    • Total Posts : 199
    • Scores: 7
    • Reward points: 5071
    • Joined: 2011/08/01 11:02:49
    • Location: melbourne vic Australia
    • Status: offline
    Re:Fuel additives 2012/11/05 23:05:51 (permalink)
    0
    If it's definitely not built for unleaded fuel then google 'octane supreme' or 'octane supreme 130' and use that.  Not as cheap as some alternatives but if you're  not doing heaps of miles  then cost is not a major concern. Once you read what it is you'll see why it is recommended.  Available here in Vic, not sure about SA
    rgds, SFE
    #4
    Wozzah
    Aficionado
    • Total Posts : 453
    • Scores: 10
    • Reward points: 3886
    • Joined: 2011/08/01 11:02:49
    • Location: Colac Vic Australia
    • Status: offline
    Re:Fuel additives 2012/11/06 10:51:50 (permalink)
    0
    SFE

    If it's definitely not built for unleaded fuel then google 'octane supreme' or 'octane supreme 130' and use that.  Not as cheap as some alternatives but if you're  not doing heaps of miles  then cost is not a major concern. Once you read what it is you'll see why it is recommended.  Available here in Vic, not sure about SA
    rgds, SFE

     
    Don't get caught running it though, EPA notice and up to $10,000 fine...........
     
    Agreed, good for the engine, but unless you're doing big klms not needed
     
    Cheers
    Woz
     
     

    Mk1 RS2000 replica (IP hillclimb car) fitted with Ford Laser 1.8 DOHC (BP) Cossy cams, Webers, 230hp
    EB XR8 5sp, heads, cam, extractors.
    http://www.facebook.com/p...rmance/135194779879292
    #5
    SFE
    Aficionado
    • Total Posts : 199
    • Scores: 7
    • Reward points: 5071
    • Joined: 2011/08/01 11:02:49
    • Location: melbourne vic Australia
    • Status: offline
    Re:Fuel additives 2012/11/06 16:04:05 (permalink)
    0
    Not the full story Warren.       The retailer claims to have obtained after long drawn out process approval to sell for road car usage, with a number of restrictions including labelling not to be used in engines designed for unleaded fuel ie cat vehicles, Maximum dosage not exceed certain levels (there is even a legislated maximum level by the minister), proof of older vehicle ownership at POS eg CH logbook, the usual flammable toxic & carcinogenic warnings, dosage guide, MSDS availability etc.
    Having said that,  it's still up to the user make his own enquiries, put it in the correct vehicle and satisfy himself on the legalities, dosage etc.  Bit different to being caught running say "blue" fuel (AV gas) by the EPA and copping the fine 
    rgds, SFE 
    #6

    Wozzah
    Aficionado
    • Total Posts : 453
    • Scores: 10
    • Reward points: 3886
    • Joined: 2011/08/01 11:02:49
    • Location: Colac Vic Australia
    • Status: offline
    Re:Fuel additives 2012/11/06 16:53:50 (permalink)
    0
    SFE

    Not the full story Warren.       The retailer claims to have obtained after long drawn out process approval to sell for road car usage, with a number of restrictions including labelling not to be used in engines designed for unleaded fuel ie cat vehicles, Maximum dosage not exceed certain levels (there is even a legislated maximum level by the minister), proof of older vehicle ownership at POS eg CH logbook, the usual flammable toxic & carcinogenic warnings, dosage guide, MSDS availability etc.
    Having said that,  it's still up to the user make his own enquiries, put it in the correct vehicle and satisfy himself on the legalities, dosage etc.  Bit different to being caught running say "blue" fuel (AV gas) by the EPA and copping the fine 
    rgds, SFE 

     
    Thats interesting, who is the Aus distributor?  I would be keen on giving some of this stuff a go in some vehicles I have floating around for some testing.
     
    Cheers
    Woz

    Mk1 RS2000 replica (IP hillclimb car) fitted with Ford Laser 1.8 DOHC (BP) Cossy cams, Webers, 230hp
    EB XR8 5sp, heads, cam, extractors.
    http://www.facebook.com/p...rmance/135194779879292
    #7
    gtmadness
    Enthusiast
    • Total Posts : 44
    • Scores: 0
    • Reward points: 2117
    • Joined: 2011/08/01 11:02:49
    • Location: adelaide sa Australia
    • Status: offline
    Re:Fuel additives 2012/11/06 20:53:05 (permalink)
    0
    Thanks guys for your input, this helps greatly
    #8
    Jump to:
    © 2025 APG vNext Trial Version 5.1